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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 5, 2009 4:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 8, 2009 8:19:20 GMT -5
Jack Webb Schools Barack Obama on Healthcare
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 8, 2009 8:49:54 GMT -5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVemYhWSFPM&feature=related [/youtube]
Gilbert Arizona Tea Party - Pastor Steven L Anderson Speaks AZ
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Post by Damon on Sept 8, 2009 22:47:22 GMT -5
The Obama speech thing is ridiculous...I remember seeing a speech by Reagan in the classroom and having similar exercises afterwards: "What did President Reagan's speech inspire you to do? How does President Reagan's personal story inspire you to serve your country?" The difference is that it's Obama in office and the right wing simply won't let up...Obama's been in office for about 7 months and I've never seen one man attacked so unjustly by a group like this...At least we know now that for some, their personal agendas are more important than the well-being of the country...From fake tea parties to sponsored outrages in townhall meetings, let's just cut the crap and respect the fact that the people have spoken and Obama is the lawfully elected President. And while we're on the subject of propaganda, why doesn't anyone mention the Bush propaganda machine that parlayed a terrorist attack and thousands of dead civilians into a way to push through his agenda and, disgracefully, attack a country that had not fired a single shot upon us... In the grand scheme of things, Obama creating "eco-warriors" via a speech to school kids is a lot less sinister than attacking sovereign nations, creating legalized eavesdropping bills and wasting trillions of dollars...all in the name of security and patriotism... Now, the day after Labor Day, more than ever... "...f they do not report for work within forty-eight hours, they will be terminated."...I agree with Paul Magno. Some of my personal favorites are the "socialist" claims. What would these people do if faced with a real socialist? Or a Marxist? Or a communist? Or Bigfoot? Admiral Stockdale should have the last words, though, on all matters political. Who am I? Why am I here?
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 9, 2009 22:34:56 GMT -5
One person in the Audience Yells "Liar" At Obama During Health Care Speech to Congress
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 9, 2009 23:32:54 GMT -5
Assemblyman Mike Duvall of Yorba Linda, California resigned on Wednesday, September 09, 2009, after he was caught on tape bragging about two alleged affairs. Attached is the raw transcript of former Assemblyman Mike Duvall's conversation about two alleged affairs.
Transcript of Duval's Conversation: Duvall: (unintelligible) (pause) She wears little eye-patch underwear, so I can see her eye patches. So, the other day she came here with her underwear, Thursday. And so, we had made love Wednesday, a lot. And so she'll she's all, I am going up and down the stairs and you're dripping out of me. So messy. (laughing)....I, I, I, I saw your staffer, and she didn't that night, at the store…yeah. (pause) So I am getting into spanking her… Yeah, I like it… I like spanking her. She goes, I know you like spanking me, I said yeah, that's 'cause you're such a bad girl. (laughing) And so her birthday was Monday. So I was 54 on June 14th, so for a month she was 19-years younger than me. I said now you're getting old, I am going have to trade you in, and she goes, she's 36, she is 18 years younger than me. And so I keep teasing her, and she goes I know you French men, you divide your age by 2 and add 7, and if you're older than that, you dump us. I go were did you get that math? She goes I looked it up. She goes I know all about you French men. So what would that make that, that means, okay, 27 and 7, I go (expletive), you're still okay, you got one more year man. I go, and I go, she goes let's make the best out of it. Other Person: (unintelligible) Duvall: Oh, yeah, Sher, Shar, Shar...Oh, she is hot. I talked to her yesterday. She goes, so are we finished? I go, no, we're not finished. I go, you know about the other one, but she doesn't know about you. (laughing)
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Post by Paul Magno on Sept 10, 2009 1:38:03 GMT -5
One person in the Audience Yells "Liar" At Obama During Health Care Speech to Congress
The disrespect and downright insubordination against Obama is actually quite chilling...worse men have done more terrible things (actually, just in the last administration alone) and don't receive this public flogging... I used to watch Fox News just for the entertainment factor, but they are so overboard, all but calling for Obama's assasination, that they are absolutely unwatchable right now... The "Death Panels" was a lie started by Palin...The Tea Parties were sponsored and organized by Fox News...The protests at the town meetings were proven to be organized by opponents of health care reform. All of this is being done to give the impression that the people are moving against Obama and that there's a grass roots movement to get rid of him...Disgraceful. There are two wars and a recession going on...It's time these nuts went to work.
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Post by greenmachine on Sept 11, 2009 20:33:46 GMT -5
The disrespect and downright insubordination against Obama is actually quite chilling...worse men have done more terrible things (actually, just in the last administration alone) and don't receive this public flogging... You're kidding right? I'd like to know where you're getting your news if you're seriously claiming that the prior administration hasn't received any "flogging" as you call it. The last admin has gotten NOTHING but flack from all corners for their actions. The current admin does nothing BUT take swipes at them, which is childish and unprofessional. Cheap shots at Palin's children...I guess that's OK but don't disagree with the powers that be...or your being disrespectful. (The outburst during the speech WAS uncalled for and classless, so before accuses me of supporting that, I don't). I used to watch Fox News just for the entertainment factor, but they are so overboard, all but calling for Obama's assasination, that they are absolutely unwatchable right now... Watch much NBC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC? Come on now. They're so far tilted to the left it's ridiculous. That's why they get clobbered in the ratings. The "Death Panels" was a lie started by Palin...The Tea Parties were sponsored and organized by Fox News...The protests at the town meetings were proven to be organized by opponents of health care reform. All of this is being done to give the impression that the people are moving against Obama and that there's a grass roots movement to get rid of him...Disgraceful. I can't speak on the death panel issue, because honestly I haven't listened to much of that chatter. The tea parties were not organized or sponsored by FOX, that just another liberal media lie because they don't want to believe that anyone could possibly disagree with their guy. The protests being organized by opponents of health care reform....well no kidding. Usually protests ARE made by opponents and not supporters. What I'd like to know is why some are finding it so difficult to believe that there are some Americans that don't support the change, or that some Americans just don't want the risk of even higher taxes to pay for this program when they can't even get straight answers at these town meetings. Every question is answered with "well the war...the war...the war..." which has NOTHING to do with the questions at hand. There are two wars and a recession going on...It's time these nuts went to work. I agree, but that pertains to ALL nuts, not just those you disagree with. We have guys like Sean Penn traveling overseas to have lunch with vicious dictators, yet are welcomed home with open arms and not one word spoken against them (except on FOX), Johnny Depp leaves the country because of his political views yet people drop million of dollars in his pockets because while our country isn't good enough for him, the American dollar sure is. Bill Mahr disrespects anyone that he doesn't agree with, mocks everyone's religious beliefs but he's got a damn show on HBO. San Francisco has become a toilet filled with drug addicts in a state that's on a rapid downward spiral but no one ants to talk about that. I'm a firm believer in supporting our President, and disagreeing in a respectful manner ( if you happen to disagree), but this new "in thing" of bashing the last administration, bashing anyone who's NOT a democrat, and the outright disrespect of a man who kept this country safe since 9-11 is what's disgusting. I won't say what my political affiliation is because the whole party issue is really is mute point: no party is 100% right or wrong nor do they have all the answers. It's so unfortunate that peoples opinions are based on what party they support and not what they really believe. Anyway, maybe my comments will lose me the friends I've made here, maybe I'll be ignored by some, "outed" on the boards for speaking my mind, and if that's the case then so be it. Truth be told, I usually stay away from political threads for just this purpose (I also stay away from anti NY Yankee threads too ). It is what it is I suppose. Though I used your quotes, this isn't a personal or direct issue with you, Paul. It's just my take on the points you posted. We differ on our point of view obviously, but that's why we vote. "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it"
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Post by Paul Magno on Sept 11, 2009 22:02:09 GMT -5
No, nobody's thinking anything less of anyone here based on personal politics...at least, I'm not. Like I said before, I'm a hardcore libertarian and I think both Democrats and Republicans are loons...no doubt. The funny thing is that both parties are basically serving the same interests and the bickering back and forth is nothing but a distraction from the matters at hand. As for the FOX news coverage, it absolutely cannot be compared to the other mainstream media sources (Msnbc has become a liberal Fox news and just as biased and, therefore, irrelevant as a news source.) FOX is way over the top, to the point where they might as well play sinister organ music every time Obama appears on the screen...When anyone says that EVERYTHING another person does is wrong, evil or ignorant...then, they are not to be trusted. Even most liberals stood behind Bush after 9/11 and during the war in Afghanistan, despite the fact that it did not gel with their usual politics. While the Obama administration and liberals like to point the finger at the Bush Administration for the sorry state of the economy, FOX and the conservatives are trying to point the finger at Obama- after 7 months in office! It's all bogus posturing and deflection from the fact that the Bush Admin. DID drop the ball in so many areas. All of this tea party and town hall meeting stuff is a distraction. And if FOX wasn't directly involved in organizing the tea parties, they sure took the ball and ran with it as they promoted the crap out of them and made sure to direct like-minded individuals to the places were they too could be recorded by FOX News cameras. The sad part is that they were, in many cases, misinformed about what was actually gong on and the end result of the tea parties and the chaotic town hall meetings was a lot of screaming and nobody accomplished anything. These "normal, everyday" people didn't show up to learn or to engage in public discourse...They were there to stir sh*t up, to interfere and to adversly affect public opinion on issues that they disagree with. And let's call a spade a spade when it comes to FOX...You can say that other media outlets tilt to the left, but none have ever publicly and shamelessy attempted to undermine the presidency of the United States to the degree that FOX News has. NBC, ABC, CNN, etc., on their most biased days are nowhere near as tilted as FOX News is on its fairest, most balanced day. At least the other media sources will give you the facts; FOX blatantly lies. Like I said, I used to watch FOX news for the entertainment factor and for the hot news girls, but they are so crazed right now that its is asolutely unwatchable. When/If someone takes a shot at Obama (literally), it will probably have to do with the rhetoric that comes from FOX...Guys like Sean Hannity and Glen Beck have already come dangerously close to calling for the overthrow of the lawfully elected President- something that you have to admit would never come from ABC, regardless of their political leanings. As for guys like Depp and Penn and their personal poltics...I couldn't care less about that garbage or if the Dixie Chicks like President Bush...Just as I couldn't care less about whether Chris Arreloa is a Democrat or Republican. It has nothing to do with me and people are free to have their own opinions...even when they disagree with mine...and they are free to still make a living based on their art. Let's face it: Most people who go into the arts or education are liberals; Most people who go into finance or the military are conservative. Hearing conservatives whine about the "liberal media and arts" is about as silly as if the liberals began to whine about the lack of bleeding heart liberals in the upper ranks of the armed forces. Personally, I voted for Obama because I think the Bush Admin will go down as one of the very worst in our nation's history. Plus, it's just good to do a houce cleaning in the White House and Congress every few years...Obama, whether you agree with his politics or not, is someone capable of inspiring the nation and of making us feel good about ourselves again. What I hated most about the Bush admin was the way they politicized 9/11, using it to make people scared and submissive rather than using it as a call to unity as a nation...After 9/11 we were united, the world was sympathetic and, therefore, we had a chance to do some real good in the world to make things safer all around...Instead, we squandered our chance by entering into the bogus Iraq war. The end result is that WE are now the enemy in many eyes and the price we've paid in human casualties and wasted money will not be worth the effort when Iraq goes back to chaos and dictatorship the moment we finally leave. Again, I hate all the rat bastards...I hate the Democrats for wanting a hand in my wallet and I hate the Republicans for wanting a hand in my personal life. By the way, I opposed the bail-outs, Bush's and Obama's, but I understand the logic behind them... Until you guys work things out up there, I'll stay in Mexico...shooting my guns, not being taxed to death and not having my library records searched for "radical" materials...
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Post by Damon on Sept 11, 2009 22:05:20 GMT -5
Anyway, maybe my comments will lose me the friends I've made here, maybe I'll be ignored by some, "outed" on the boards for speaking my mind, and if that's the case then so be it. Truth be told, I usually stay away from political threads for just this purpose (I also stay away from anti NY Yankee threads too ). Well said, Green. I don't agree with much of it, and I'd disagree vehemently with some of it (the mass media as it's structured today exists to further corporate interests, Dick Cheney should be in jail or worse, anything short of Medicaid for all is useless and only benefits the insurance co's and pharma ;D). But what's kind of cool, I guess, is that when someone you have do have other things in common with (boxing, in this case) and know a little bit about can state his or her case respectfully and calmly, even when you do disagree totally, your first reaction isn't dismissal or disgust or anger. Way easier said than done, but people just need to turn off the TV and talk to each other with a little more respect and open-mindedness. I appreciate that, Green.
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Post by Paul Magno on Sept 11, 2009 22:16:19 GMT -5
Anyway, maybe my comments will lose me the friends I've made here, maybe I'll be ignored by some, "outed" on the boards for speaking my mind, and if that's the case then so be it. Truth be told, I usually stay away from political threads for just this purpose (I also stay away from anti NY Yankee threads too ). Well said, Green. I don't agree with much of it, and I'd disagree vehemently with some of it (the mass media as it's structured today exists to further corporate interests, Dick Cheney should be in jail or worse, anything short of Medicaid for all is useless and only benefits the insurance co's and pharma ;D). But what's kind of cool, I guess, is that when someone you have do have other things in common with (boxing, in this case) and know a little bit about can state his or her case respectfully and calmly, even when you do disagree totally, your first reaction isn't dismissal or disgust or anger. Way easier said than done, but people just need to turn off the TV and talk to each other with a little more respect and open-mindedness. I appreciate that, Green. Damon...Eat Lead, You Commie Bastard! ;D
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 12, 2009 0:08:14 GMT -5
Anyway, maybe my comments will lose me the friends I've made here, maybe I'll be ignored by some, "outed" on the boards for speaking my mind, and if that's the case then so be it. Truth be told, I usually stay away from political threads for just this purpose (I also stay away from anti NY Yankee threads too ). It is what it is I suppose. Though I used your quotes, this isn't a personal or direct issue with you, Paul. It's just my take on the points you posted. We differ on our point of view obviously, but that's why we vote. greenmachine I think it's great that you spoke your mind that's what America is all about Freedom I don't think you'll lose any friends you might gain some though By the way I like the Libertarian party
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 12, 2009 4:30:27 GMT -5
Acorn is known for helping people register to vote in the last election Acorn Prostitute Video - Some legal experts raise questions over whether the two employees on the community organizing group ACORN Prostitute video below broke the law. The two employees who are seen in the video giving advice to a man and a woman pretending to be a pimp and a prostitute. The video made public Thursday, when a couple visited the ACORN office in Baltimore and told the staffers that they needed assistance securing housing where the woman, a 20-year-old who called herself “Kenya,” could continue to run her prostitution business. According to ACORN Prostitute video, employees encourage two visitors to lie to the IRS and also offer advice on how to claim underage girls from South America as their dependents. The ACORN Scandal Video only shows that ACORN officials are willing to help criminals pay their taxes while lying to the IRS, and their advice in ways will only increase the chance of them getting audited or worst getting busted. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtTnizEnC1U&feature=player_embedded [/youtube]
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Post by Paul Magno on Sept 12, 2009 4:41:15 GMT -5
The ACORN Scandal Video only shows that ACORN officials are willing to help criminals pay their taxes while lying to the IRS,
You've just described every corporate attorney and major league corporate accountant... I'm against all corruption, but let's put the "Trickle Down Theory" to work here and start at the top instead of starting in the middle and working our way down... Kind of off-topic, but it's ridiculous that prostitution hasn't been legalized...
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Post by PHONETOOL on Sept 12, 2009 5:05:43 GMT -5
but it's ridiculous that prostitution hasn't been legalized... I agree with that It would sure help the economy ;D
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