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Post by Dafs117 on Oct 17, 2009 21:55:27 GMT -5
Dirrell did not do enough. He is the better fighter. If Froch didn't have the WBC belt, he would have won. He came to negatively run. He didn't throw combinations until round 11. I explained in my last comment my score of 115-114 to Dirrell and 116-111 to Froch on bias.
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Post by smoothstyle1 on Oct 17, 2009 22:27:41 GMT -5
Taylor got KO'd just like I thought he would, but personally, I thought Dirrell was robbed.
Dirrell landed more punches, cleaner shots and more effective punches and deserved to win.
The judges must have been awarding points for simply being the aggressor because I see no other way how Froch could have won the fight.
Despite the loss, Dirrell proved that he belonged in the tournament. Unfortunately for Dirrell, he has to face Abraham next.
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Post by Paul Magno on Oct 17, 2009 22:55:29 GMT -5
Abraham is not the god Showtime made him to be...
He's good, but the secret to beating Arthur Abraham is:
1) Keep busy...Abraham only fights for about 20 seconds per round
2) Not fight in Germany
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Post by Stivan on Oct 17, 2009 23:16:28 GMT -5
i had it 114-113 direll wouldnt say he was robbed but hard to get a decision in england i guess. taylor should hang it up what a fuckin ko.
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Post by Charlie 21er on Oct 18, 2009 0:31:56 GMT -5
Taylor got KO'd just like I thought he would, but personally, I thought Dirrell was robbed. Dirrell landed more punches, cleaner shots and more effective punches and deserved to win. The judges must have been awarding points for simply being the aggressor because I see no other way how Froch could have won the fight. Despite the loss, Dirrell proved that he belonged in the tournament. Unfortunately for Dirrell, he has to face Abraham next. Abraham didn't impress me much. He fights for a fraction of every round and near the end there was just leaning back from Taylor's jabs. I was yelling at the computer screen trying to will Taylor into dropping his right hand behind it, it could have changed things. I think that if they fought, Pavlik would beat Abraham. Abraham covers up and then tries to steal rounds. He drops his hands and he backs straight up. How Taylor didn't capitalize on that is beyond me. I don't know how Taylor ever beat Hopkins. Froch bugged the hell out of me. I understand that boxing is a rough sport, Bunce, but frequent rabbit punching is incredibly dangerous and I don't approve. I hope Froch gets brutally Kayoed by Kessler.
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Post by Haynesey on Oct 18, 2009 5:40:39 GMT -5
Dirrell won, he did all the meaningful work, he just wasn't throwing enough punches to make it overly convincing. I don't see Froch picking up any more points in this tournament, despite Kessler and Arbraham being better style matchups for him, his technique is just too poor.
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Post by Dafs117 on Oct 18, 2009 6:12:46 GMT -5
Dirrell wasn't there to fight. He was so negative. If people complain about Klitschko, I don't get why they don't complain about Dirrell. I thought he would be on his bike, but I expected combinations, I only saw about 2.
Paul, as a qualified judge, you award challenger rounds for beating the champion in the round. In the close cagey openings, Dirrell failed to beat him, he sort of went backwards and threw about 10 jabs that were absorbed on the gloves of Froch. Froch didn't win the rounds, but gets the round because he's the agressor and that he's champion. That's boxing. It happend everywhere.
Hometown decision would of been a UD by 117-110 to Froch. It wasn't a robbery. It was a dodgy decision but ot wasn't a robbery. Dirrell didn't clearly win. He didn't show that he wanted to win the fight until the last two rounds.
How many of you see Dirrell will beat Abraham if it's in States?
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Post by PBD on Oct 18, 2009 6:39:01 GMT -5
Man Dirrel is like a wasted talent , if he would just do more and let his hands go he would have won that without a doubt. Froch is garbage but was pressing the whole fight. Dirrels usual inactivity lost him the fight!
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Post by Haynesey on Oct 18, 2009 8:42:21 GMT -5
Man Dirrel is like a wasted talent , if he would just do more and let his hands go he would have won that without a doubt. Froch is garbage but was pressing the whole fight. Dirrels usual inactivity lost him the fight! F#cking frustrating, guy could pretty much hit Froch at will.
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Post by ste100 on Oct 18, 2009 11:56:02 GMT -5
i thought dirrell had a clear victory, terrible decision. froch looks clueless against speed.
taylor should consider pulling out of the tournament at this rate.
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Post by smoothstyle1 on Oct 18, 2009 14:11:24 GMT -5
Abraham is not the god Showtime made him to be... He's good, but the secret to beating Arthur Abraham is: 1) Keep busy...Abraham only fights for about 20 seconds per round 2) Not fight in Germany You left off the most important variable in beating Abraham: don't get hit flush by his power punches. The man has divesting one-punch KO power and is by far the biggest puncher in the Super 6. I really like Dirrell, but I see Abraham catching him and stopping him late.
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Post by Paul Magno on Oct 18, 2009 15:16:53 GMT -5
Abraham is not the god Showtime made him to be... He's good, but the secret to beating Arthur Abraham is: 1) Keep busy...Abraham only fights for about 20 seconds per round 2) Not fight in Germany You left off the most important variable in beating Abraham: don't get hit flush by his power punches. The man has divesting one-punch KO power and is by far the biggest puncher in the Super 6. I really like Dirrell, but I see Abraham catching him and stopping him late. 10 IQ points higher and Taylor would beat Abraham...That ONE power punch per round by Abraham can easily be smothered...Abraham does nothing...He looks like a spoiled fighter who's grown accustomed to just being able to show up and beat inferior opposition...Abraham is still the weakest fighter in the tourney (except for Taylor)
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Post by Paul Magno on Oct 18, 2009 15:33:57 GMT -5
Dirrell wasn't there to fight. He was so negative. If people complain about Klitschko, I don't get why they don't complain about Dirrell. I thought he would be on his bike, but I expected combinations, I only saw about 2. Paul, as a qualified judge, you award challenger rounds for beating the champion in the round. In the close cagey openings, Dirrell failed to beat him, he sort of went backwards and threw about 10 jabs that were absorbed on the gloves of Froch. Froch didn't win the rounds, but gets the round because he's the agressor and that he's champion. That's boxing. It happend everywhere. Hometown decision would of been a UD by 117-110 to Froch. It wasn't a robbery. It was a dodgy decision but ot wasn't a robbery. Dirrell didn't clearly win. He didn't show that he wanted to win the fight until the last two rounds. How many of you see Dirrell will beat Abraham if it's in States? I don't buy into that "Champion gets the close rounds" philosophy...If you're a proper judge, the winner gets the round...period. But, unfortunately, a lot of judges do take the lazy way out... When judging a fight, your opinion of what's going on in the heads of the fighters shouldn't matter, so it doesn't make a difference whether you think one guy is pushing for the win more than the other...the only thing that should matter is what's actually going on in the fight... There were a lot of close rounds in the fight, but there's no way Dirrell only won 4 rounds, like two of the judges saw it...
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Post by smoothstyle1 on Oct 18, 2009 16:13:44 GMT -5
You left off the most important variable in beating Abraham: don't get hit flush by his power punches. The man has divesting one-punch KO power and is by far the biggest puncher in the Super 6. I really like Dirrell, but I see Abraham catching him and stopping him late. 10 IQ points higher and Taylor would beat Abraham...That ONE power punch per round by Abraham can easily be smothered...Abraham does nothing...He looks like a spoiled fighter who's grown accustomed to just being able to show up and beat inferior opposition...Abraham is still the weakest fighter in the tourney (except for Taylor) Easier said than done, mate. Abraham is a beast and has fight ending KO power in both hands. From the 6th round on he starts letting his hands go and is very, very dangerous.
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Post by Paul Magno on Oct 18, 2009 16:22:04 GMT -5
10 IQ points higher and Taylor would beat Abraham...That ONE power punch per round by Abraham can easily be smothered...Abraham does nothing...He looks like a spoiled fighter who's grown accustomed to just being able to show up and beat inferior opposition...Abraham is still the weakest fighter in the tourney (except for Taylor) Easier said than done, mate. Abraham is a beast and has fight ending KO power in both hands. From the 6th round on he starts letting his hands go and is very, very dangerous. Still, we'll see what happens when someone actually takes the fight to Abraham...one 10 second flurry per round won't be enough to take this thing...I'll go on record, right now (although I detest making long-term predictions) that unless something changes, Abraham won't win another fight in the tournament...
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