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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 24, 2009 20:17:56 GMT -5
What African Fighters in his weight class actually could draw a crowd??? None of them are worthy! They have no fan base , and they can't fill seats! He fought the best fighters in his weight class. Barrea,Morales,Marquez those were the biggest names in his class. How can Pacquiao lay claim to beating the best when Barrera, Morales and Marquez had been beaten previously by African American fighters? And Morales especially...Morales had just been clowned by Zahir Raheem, but Pacquiao still opted to fight Morales... I thought Pacquiao was supposed to be about fighting the best! Not caring about money or fame or any of the things that the evil Floyd Mayweather worries about?
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Post by Charlie 21er on Jun 24, 2009 22:09:46 GMT -5
Yea take 30% and give Pacman a beating then yor the super star and will be making more after this fight. or lose, be humiliated by a guy smaller than you and be forced into retirement... And go home and swim in my money bin along with 6 million dollars or so. Invest all of it and live comfortably off of my interest and not have to worry about abusing myself or being beat up for a living anymore. Man, sounds like a tough choice.
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 24, 2009 23:43:39 GMT -5
or lose, be humiliated by a guy smaller than you and be forced into retirement... And go home and swim in my money bin along with 6 million dollars or so. Invest all of it and live comfortably off of my interest and not have to worry about abusing myself or being beat up for a living anymore. Man, sounds like a tough choice. But we know it doesn't work like that... 6 million- minus 3 million in taxes 3 million- minus management fees, trainer fees, etc 2.2 million- minus the money for the hangers-on and the road tail.. 1.9 million- minus the inevitable lawsuit that will be started by Evangelista If Cotto losses the lawsuit, he's in the red...If he wins, he'll be down to 500K after lawyer's fees... If Miguel invests that 500K, what the hell kinda shot does he have of making money...He's Miguel Cotto, not Donald Trump! Cotto is a raging moron for taking a 30% cut and he's degrading his status in the sport, essentially stating that Ricky Hatton is greater than him...
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Post by LatinAce on Jun 25, 2009 0:08:08 GMT -5
What African Fighters in his weight class actually could draw a crowd??? None of them are worthy! They have no fan base , and they can't fill seats! He fought the best fighters in his weight class. Barrea,Morales,Marquez those were the biggest names in his class. How can Pacquiao lay claim to beating the best when Barrera, Morales and Marquez had been beaten previously by African American fighters? And Morales especially...Morales had just been clowned by Zahir Raheem, but Pacquiao still opted to fight Morales... I thought Pacquiao was supposed to be about fighting the best! Not caring about money or fame or any of the things that the evil Floyd Mayweather worries about? isn't cotto the best at welter right now?
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 25, 2009 1:17:37 GMT -5
How can Pacquiao lay claim to beating the best when Barrera, Morales and Marquez had been beaten previously by African American fighters? And Morales especially...Morales had just been clowned by Zahir Raheem, but Pacquiao still opted to fight Morales... I thought Pacquiao was supposed to be about fighting the best! Not caring about money or fame or any of the things that the evil Floyd Mayweather worries about? isn't cotto the best at welter right now? But Pacquiao has no intention of being a welter...
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Post by MackBundlez on Jun 25, 2009 10:45:10 GMT -5
Ima little confused as 2 how this whole "Lineal Champ" stuff works... It's suppose 2 be based on who beat, that beat the man, that beat type of thing, right?... Well, say if Mayweather retires again... Considerin the fact that Cotto lost 2 Margarito & then Margarito lost 2 Mosley, wouldn't Mosley be considered the Lineal Champ then?...
Ima little confused...lol...
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Post by LatinAce on Jun 25, 2009 12:20:25 GMT -5
isn't cotto the best at welter right now? But Pacquiao has no intention of being a welter... who's a tougher task, Cotto or Bradley? and whos gonna get Pacquiao more money n improve his legacy. not Bradley...
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Post by boriblaze1 on Jun 25, 2009 15:29:55 GMT -5
Paul , 500,000?? Miguel Cotto owns gas stations he makes money in his sleep. He is a very smart fighter and has learned from past fighters mistakes. He has his money well invested!! He is also a promoter not the biggest or best promotional company but he has many options after boxing.
Ricky Hatton is a bigger draw then Cotto and does sell more PPV's and packs more seats!!! Hatton has the biggest and most loyal fan base. over 30,000 fans traveled from England to the US!!
I agree that Cotto should not take a 30% he should be taking at least 40% cut!
PacMan before De La Hoya and Hatton could not sell PPV's by himself. He sells just as much as Cotto does.
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 26, 2009 0:09:15 GMT -5
Paul , 500,000?? Miguel Cotto owns gas stations he makes money in his sleep. He is a very smart fighter and has learned from past fighters mistakes. He has his money well invested!! He is also a promoter not the biggest or best promotional company but he has many options after boxing. Ricky Hatton is a bigger draw then Cotto and does sell more PPV's and packs more seats!!! Hatton has the biggest and most loyal fan base. over 30,000 fans traveled from England to the US!! I agree that Cotto should not take a 30% he should be taking at least 40% cut! PacMan before De La Hoya and Hatton could not sell PPV's by himself. He sells just as much as Cotto does. Cotto will be raped in negotiations with Pacquiao and be forced into making every concession that Manny wants...mark my words... If he does that, Pacquiao will walk up, slaughter him and claim world dominance...Then, Arum will re-sign a ruined and humiliated Cotto for pennies on the dollar and auction him off as a sacrifice to the highest bidder...
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Post by punchdrunk on Jun 26, 2009 1:18:43 GMT -5
If Cotto takes this fight it will just to get a big payday.I'm not saying he won't win but it will be for the most money he can make against anyone else.With the exception of PBF,of course but that fight doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon.
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 26, 2009 7:53:12 GMT -5
If Cotto takes this fight it will just to get a big payday.I'm not saying he won't win but it will be for the most money he can make against anyone else.With the exception of PBF,of course but that fight doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. But on the short end of a 70-30 split, he'd be making just a bit more money than he would make with a 60-40 split in his favor in a Mosley bout... Guys, Cotto is about to be raped by Arum...watch...
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 26, 2009 9:03:15 GMT -5
Ima little confused as 2 how this whole "Lineal Champ" stuff works... It's suppose 2 be based on who beat, that beat the man, that beat type of thing, right?... Well, say if Mayweather retires again... Considerin the fact that Cotto lost 2 Margarito & then Margarito lost 2 Mosley, wouldn't Mosley be considered the Lineal Champ then?... Ima little confused...lol... You're right...if Mayweather is out of the picture, Mosley is lineal champ...
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Post by MackBundlez on Jun 26, 2009 12:41:03 GMT -5
Ima little confused as 2 how this whole "Lineal Champ" stuff works... It's suppose 2 be based on who beat, that beat the man, that beat type of thing, right?... Well, say if Mayweather retires again... Considerin the fact that Cotto lost 2 Margarito & then Margarito lost 2 Mosley, wouldn't Mosley be considered the Lineal Champ then?... Ima little confused...lol... You're right...if Mayweather is out of the picture, Mosley is lineal champ... Thanks Paul... That's how I thought it went 2... Why do people keep sayin Cotto then?... lol, I've heard a lotta people continue 2 say that Cotto is... I'm speakin from a general standpoint 2 fellaz... Are some people just disregardin Cotto's loss 2 Margarito?...
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Post by boriblaze1 on Jun 26, 2009 16:41:06 GMT -5
Ima little confused as 2 how this whole "Lineal Champ" stuff works... It's suppose 2 be based on who beat, that beat the man, that beat type of thing, right?... Well, say if Mayweather retires again... Considerin the fact that Cotto lost 2 Margarito & then Margarito lost 2 Mosley, wouldn't Mosley be considered the Lineal Champ then?... Ima little confused...lol... You're right...if Mayweather is out of the picture, Mosley is lineal champ... Mosley and Cotto are the two highest ranked welter weights. These two would have to square off to see who the lineal champion is. Because right now it's vacant. And if The Ring actually thought that Margarito vs Mosley was Lineal Belt worthy they would have made that fight the for the Ring belt. But they didn't because Cotto was ranked higher. And with Cotto's win over Clottey if anything he should be crowned the lineal champion for beating a champion. But the only way to do it is Cotto vs Mosley. Let PacMan wait for the September fight between Marquez and Mayweather. And let Cotto fight Mosley for a Unification fight and Ring Crowning. With the winner facing the winner of PacMan vs Mayweather. Which would make both fights much bigger.
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Post by Paul Magno on Jun 26, 2009 16:58:53 GMT -5
You're right...if Mayweather is out of the picture, Mosley is lineal champ... Mosley and Cotto are the two highest ranked welter weights. These two would have to square off to see who the lineal champion is. Because right now it's vacant. And if The Ring actually thought that Margarito vs Mosley was Lineal Belt worthy they would have made that fight the for the Ring belt. But they didn't because Cotto was ranked higher. And with Cotto's win over Clottey if anything he should be crowned the lineal champion for beating a champion. But the only way to do it is Cotto vs Mosley. Let PacMan wait for the September fight between Marquez and Mayweather. And let Cotto fight Mosley for a Unification fight and Ring Crowning. With the winner facing the winner of PacMan vs Mayweather. Which would make both fights much bigger. Bori, I still don't think you understand what the lineal world title means... and, by the way... F*ck Ring Magazine!
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